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good night from washington. go to greta wire.comnd join the blogging. we're all there, so go ahead. see you tomorrow night, 10:00 p.m. s.address. welcome to fox news live coverage of the president's oval office address on iraq. i'm bret baier in washington. tonight, president obama announces the official end of u.s. combat operations in iraq. after almost seven and a half years since the invasion that toppled saddam hussein. the president is expected to outline where the war goes from here and what lies ahead in afghanistan. coming up right after the speech a special o'reilly factor. here is bill with a preview. bill? >> bill: bret, after the president speaks tonight we have our barack and hard place duo colmes and crowley analyze what he said and the political implications of his remarks. also colonel david hunt and lt. colonel ralph peters on the military situation right now in iraq.
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is it getting worse? could the terrorists still win? that, plus the usual factor chaos with john stossel, lis wiehl and kimberly guilfoyle coming up when you bret decide to hand it back to me. >> bret: it won't be long. major thoughts on this speech. >> five troops offering veterans assistance for whatever they may need. tough talk about the work in afghanistan. unfinished business in iraq including formation of a unity government and urgent call for action on the u.s. economy. this latter, bret, a response to pleas from democrats the president identify with america's economic anxiety. >> bret: now to president obama from the oval office behind the same desk that president bush sat behind to announce the start of the iraq war. >> good evening. tonight i would like to talk to you about the end of our combat mission in iraq. the ongoing security challenges we face and the need to rebuild our nation here at home. i know this historic moment
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comes at a time of great uncertainty for many americans. we have now been through nearly a decade of war. we have endured a long and painful recession. and sometimes in the midst of these storms the future that we're trying to build for our nation, a future of lasting peace and long-term prosperity may seem beyond our reach. but this milestone should serve as a reminder to all americans that the future is ours to shape if we move forward with confidence and commitment. it should also serve as a message to the world that the united states of america intends to sustain and strengthen our leadership in this young century. from this desk, seven and a half years ago, president bush announced the beginning of military operations in iraq. much has changed since that night. a war to disarm a state became a fight against an insurgency. terrorism and sectarian warfare
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threatened to tear iraq apart. thousands of americans gave their lives. tens of thousands have been wounded. our relations abroad were strained. our unity at home was tested. these are the rough waters encountered during the course of one of america's longest wars. yet, there has been one constant amidst these shifting tides. at every turn, america's men and women in uniform have served with courage and resolve. as commander and chief, i am incredibly proud of their service. and, like all americans, i'm awed by their sacrifice. and by the sacrifices of their families. the americans who have served in iraq completed every mission they were given. they defeated a regime that had terrorized its people. together with iraqis and coalition partners who made huge
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sacrifices of their own, our troops fought block by block to help iraq seize the chance for a better future. they shifted tactics to protect the iraqi people, trained iraqi security forces, and took out terrorist leaders. because of our troops, and civilians, and because of the resilience of the iraqi people, iraq has the opportunity to embrace a new destiny, even though many challenges remain. so tonight, i am announcing that the american combat mission in iraq has ended. operation iraqi freedom is over. and the iraqi people now have lead responsibility for the security of their country. this was my pledge to the american people as a candidate for this office. last february i announced a plan that would bring our combat brigades out of iraq while redoubling our efforts to strengthen iraq's security forces and support its government and people.
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that's what we have done. we have removed nearly 100,000 u.s. troops from iraq. we have closed or transferred to the iraqis hundreds of bases. and we have moved millions of pieces of equipment out of iraq. this completes a transition to iraqi responsibility for their own security. u.s. troops pulled out of iraq cities last summer and iraqi forces have moved into the lead with considerable skill and commitment to their fellow citizens. even as iraq continues to suffer terrorist attacks, security incidents have been near the lowest on record since the war began. and iraqi forces have taken the fight to al qaeda, removing much of its leadership in iraqi-led operations. this year also saw iraq hold credible elections that drew a strong turnout. a caretaker administration is in place as iraqis form a government based on the results of that election.
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tonight, i encourage iraq's leaders to move forward with a sense of urgency, to form an inclusive government that is just, representative, and accountable to the iraqi people. and when that government is in place, there should be no doubt the iraqi people will have a strong partner in the united states. our combat mission is ending, but our commitment to iraq's future is not. going forward, a transitional force of u.s. troops will remain in iraq with a different mission. advising and assisting iraq security forces. supporting iraqi troops and targeted counter terrorism missions and protecting our civilians. consistent with our agreement with the iraqi government, all u.s. troops will leave by the end of next year. as our military draws down, our dedicated civilians, diplomats, aid workers, and advisors, are moving into the lead to support
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iraq as it strengthens its government, resolves political disputes, resettles those displaced by war, and builds ties with the region and the world. that's a message that vice president biden is delivering to the iraqi people through his visit there today. this new approach reflects our long-term partnership with iraq. one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect. and, of course, violence will not end with our combat mission. extremists will continue to set off bombs, attack iraqi civilians and try to spark sectarian strife. but ultimately these terrorists will fail to achieve their goals. iraqis are a proud people. they have rejected sectarian war. and they have no interest in endless destruction. they understand that in the end only iraqis can resolve their differences and police their streets. only iraqis can build a democracy within their borders.
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what america can do and will do is provide support for the iraqi people as both a friend and a partner. ending this war is not only in iraq's interest, it's in our own. the united states has paid a huge price to put the future of iraq in the hands of its people. we have sent our young men and women to make enormous sacrifices in iraq and spent vast resources abroad at a time of tight budgets at home. we have persevered because of the belief we share with the iraqi people, a belief that out of the ashes of war a new beginning could be born in this cradle of civilization. through this remarkable chapter in the history of the united states and iraq, we have met our responsibilities. now it's time to turn the page. as we do, i'm mindful that the
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iraq war has been a contentious issue at home. here, too, it's time to turn the page. this afternoon i spoke to former president george w. bush. it's well known that he and i disagreed about the war from its outset. yet, no one can doubt president bush's support for our troops or his love of country and commitment to our security. as i have said, there were patriots who supported this war and patriots who opposed it. and all of us are united in appreciation for our servicemen and women and our hopes for iraqi's future. the greatness of our democracy is grounded in our ability to move beyond our differences. and to learn from our experience as we confront the many challenges ahead. and no challenge is more essential to our security than our fight against al qaeda. americans across the political spectrum supported the use of
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force against those who attacked us on 9/11. now, as we approach our tenth year of combat in afghanistan, there are those who are understandably asking tough questions about our mission there. but we must never lose sight of what's at stake. as we speak, al qaeda continues to plot against us. and its leadership remains anchored in the border regions of afghanistan and pakistan. we will disrupt, dismantle, and defeat al qaeda while preventing afghanistan from again serving as a base for terrorists. and because of our drawdown in iraq, we are now able to apply the resources necessary to go on offense. in fact, over the last 19 months, nearly a dozen al qaeda leaders and hundred of al qaeda's extremist allies have been killed or captured around the world. within afghanistan, i have ordered the deployment of additional troops who, under the command of general david petraeus, are fighting to break
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the taliban's momentum. as with the surge in iraq, these forces will be in place for a limited time to provide space for the afghans to build their capacity and secure their own future. but, as was the case in iraq, we can't do for afghans what they must ultimately do for themselves. that's why we're training afghan security forces and supporting a political resolution to afghanistan's problems. next august, we will begin a transition to afghan responsibility. the pace of our troop reductions will be determined by conditions on the ground. and our support for afghanistan will endure. but make no mistake, this transition will begin because open-ended war serves neither our interests nor the afghan people's. indeed, one of the lessons of our effort in iraq is that american influence around the world is not a function of
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military force alone. we must use all elements of our power, including our diplomacy, our economic strength, and the power of america's example to secure our interests and stand by our allies. and we must project a vision of the future that's based not just on our fears but also on our hopes. a vision that recognizes the real dangers that exist around the world but also the limitless possibilities of our time. today, old adversaries are at peace and emerging democracies are potential partners. new markets for our goods stretch from asia to the americas. a new push for peace in the middle east will begin here tomorrow. billions of young people want to move beyond the shackles of poverty and conflict. as the leader of the free world, america will do more than just defeat on the battlefield those who offer hatred and destruction. we will also lead among those who are willing to work together
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to expand freedom and opportunity for all people. now that effort must begin within our own borders. throughout our history, america has been willing to bear the burden of promoting liberty and human dignity overseas, understanding its links to our liberty and security. but we have also understood that our nation's strength and influence abroad must be firmly anchored in our prosperity at home. and the bedrock of that prosperity must be a growing middle class. unfortunately, over the last decade, we have not done what's necessary to shore up the foundations of our own prosperity. we have spent a trillion dollars at war, often financed from borrowing from overseas. this, in turn, has short changed investments in our own people and contributed to record deficits. for too long we have put off tough decisions on everything from our manufacturing base to
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our energy policy, to education reform. as a result, too many middle class families find themselves working harder for less while our nation's long-term competitiveness is put at risk. and so at this moment, as we wind down the war in iraq, we must tackle those challenges at home with as much energy and grit and sense of common purpose as our men and women in uniform who have served abroad. they have met every test that they faced. now it's our turn. now it's our responsibility to honor them by coming together, all of us, and working to secure the dream that so many generations have fought for. the dream that a better life awaits anyone who is willing to work for it and reach for it. our most urgent task is to restore our economy and put the millions of americans who have lost their jobs back to work.
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to strengthen our middle class we must give all our children the education they deserve and all our workers the skills that they need to compete in a global economy. we must jump start industries that create jobs and end our dependence on foreign oil. we must unleash the innovation that allows new products to roll off our assembly lines and nurture the ideas that spring from our entrepreneurs. this will be difficult but in the days to come, it must be our central mission as a people. and my central responsibility as president. part of that responsibility is making sure that we honor our commitments to those who have served our country with such valor. as long as i am president, we will maintain the finest fighting force that the world has ever known and we will do whatever it takes to serve our veterans as well as they have served us. this is a sacred trust. that's why we have already made one of the largest increases in funding for veterans in decades.
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we're treating the signature wounds of today's wars post-traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injury, while providing the health care and benefits that all of our veterans have earned. we're fund ago post 9/11 g.i. bill that helps our veterans and their families pursue the dream of a college education. just as the g.i. bill helped those who fought world war ii, including my grandfather, become the backbone of our middle class. so today's servicemen and women must have the chance to apply their gifts to expand the american economy. because part of ending a war responsibly is standing by those who have fought it. two weeks ago america's final combat brigade in iraq, the army's fourth striker brigade journeyed home in the pre-dawn darkness, thousands of soldiers and hundreds of vehicles made the trip from baghdad the last
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of them passing into kuwait in the early morning hours. over seven years before, american troops and coalition partners had fought their way across similar highways. but this time no shots were fired. it was just a convoy of brave americans making their way home. of course, the soldiers left much behind. some were teenagers when the war began. many have served multiple tours of duty, far from families who bore heroic burden of their own and during the absence of husband's embrace or a mother's kiss. most painfully, since the war began, 55 members of the force striker brigade made the ultimate sacrifice. part of over 4400 americans who have given their lives in iraq. as one staff sergeant said, "i know that to my brothers in arms who fought and died this day
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would probably mean a lot. "those americans gave their lives for the values that have lived in the hearts of our people for over two centuries. along with nearly 1.5 million americans who have served in iraq, they fought in a far away place for people they never knew. they stared into the darkest of human creations war and help the iraqi people seek the light of peace. in an age without surrender ceremonies, we must earn victory through the success of our partners and the strength of our own nation. every american who serves joins an unbroken line of heros that stretches from lexington to gettysburg. from eye owe jim that to china. from kayson to kandahar. americans who have fought to see that the lives of our children
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are better than our own. our troops are the steel in our ship of state. and though our nation may be traveling through rough waters, they give us confidence that our course is true and that beyond the pre-dawn darkness, better days lie ahead. thank you. may god bless you and may god bless the united states of america and all who serve her. >> bret: this was president obama's second oval office address. the first, of course, about the gulf oil spill. this one he announced the formal end of combat operations in iraq. lasted more than 19 minutes. the president pledging not to leave iraqis in the sensitive political time. urging iraqi leaders to get their government up and running fast. in this speech he paid tribute to former george w. bush for his quote support of our troops, his love of country and commitment to security. president obama compared his
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surge of troops in afghanistan to president bush's surge in iraq, a move then senator obama and presidential candidate obama vigorously opposed. president obama asked for patience from the american people for the war in afghanistan, saying just now the resources are there to go on the offense. the president used the spending for the wars to talk about what he called the most urgent task, restoring the economy. the president also praised the men and women in the u.s. military and their families for their sacrifice and service, calling the u.s. military the finest fighting force the world has ever known. the steel in our ship of state. let's get reaction now from our panel. steve hayes, senior writer for the "weekly standard," juan williams news analyst for "national public radio" and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. charles? >> i thought the speech was both flat and odd. flat he spoke about iraq as if it's just a chapter in our history without a purpose really and it was almost like a lamentation over what had been
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lost here whereas we have achieved remarkable success. i think it's some of it is still up in the air and in jeopardy. but remarkable success in turning in around but the most interesting aspect and the oddest was the way he tacked on the economic pep talk. and he did say his central mission of the presidency is economic. this is in a speech in which you would have expected he would have gawkd a vision of america abroad, the war in iraq, the war in afghanistan, a way to give a theme and a purpose to what we're doing abroad. and it reflects what was in a "new york times" article over the weekend in which it stressed by interviewing a lot of obama advisors how he sees the presidency as a distraction from what he really wants to do which is changing america domestically. a think for a speech about the end of a war in the middle of a difficult war in afghanistan, it was remarkably about vision, about america's role in the world and the economic stuff, i think, really shows that his heart is not in these missions abroad but it is in changing
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america at home. and i'm not sure how heartening that's going to be for our allies who are with us in difficult arenas around the world. >> bret: juan? >> i thought it was a terrific speech and i think it was terrific just because he managed to link for the american people what's been going on in iraq with afghanistan and a need to remain vigilant and hard-hearted about fighting the terrorists in afghanistan. secondly, he managed to link it to the economy, to what's been going on here at home. this is what is on the mind of the american people. this is what they are concerned about. and he has been able to say here we're going to be able to maintain our commitment, not only in iraq but to afghanistan, going beyond the deadlines. says it's going to be dictated by conditions on the ground. but we clearly have a commitment as a friend and partner, he said, going forward and that he is willing to work and extend that commitment. i think that should be reassuring to a number of people. i think to my colleagues here on the panel, the fact that he singled out president bush and
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said that president bush is a good american, there had been lots of discussion, debate, argument, about the war here at home left and right pro and con but now is the time to come together. again, i think that was a necessary statement and i think it's a signal to his supporters as well as to his opponent and worthy of that oval office. finally, i would say when you think about what he is trying to do, in talking about the limits of open-ended war, he made it very clear that he understands the difference between commitment and diplomacy and a need for extending america's influence by means other than military. >> bret: steve? >> as a candidate barack obama argued that the iraq war as a distraction. as president he has treated it as a distraction. in this speech, it confirmed that he believes that iraq was a distraction. i agree with charles entirely. it was as much about the economy in afghanistan as it was about iraq and to the extent that he talked about iraq and afghanistan and made the comparisons with respect to the surge in iraq and the surge in
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afghanistan, he left out or down played the most significant factor in our success in iraq, and that is a presidential level commitment to victory that is unquestioned. and we haven't seen that from president obama. tonight he reaffirmed the deadline in afghanistan. something president bush never did. >> bret: thanks for watching fox news special coverage of the president's address on iraq. i'm bret baier. please join me wednesday at 6:00 p.m. eastern time for "special report." good night from washington. "the o'reilly factor" starts right now. ♪ >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight for this special edition of the factor. so, what did you think of president obama's speech on iraq? did it mean anything to you? some of us here on the factor were discussing why the president even bothered. the down sizing of combat troops is a big story but it's been
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told. so, i think the president is trying to show the country that he is firmly in command of the armed forces and of his political agenda going forward. the question is does anyone care with the economy still a mess? with us now to analyze our barack and hard place duo monica crowley and alan colmes. why did he do it. >> i think he gave the speech for two interrelegalitied reasons. we have a weak economy still going on, a lot of the numbers show that the economy is getting worse not better. also the falling poll numbers. is he in the danger zone, below 42, 41% job approval. he needed to show he was in command. not just in command of the u.s. armed forces but in command of his own presidency, bill, because he has lost his grip. look, a lot of people i think tonight tuned out. they are tuning in now thank goodness but they tuned out. it took president bush years before people started tuning him out. this guy is losing his grip on the american people.
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fair faith in him has been severely shaken not by just his lack of focus of a grand strategy in the world which he failed to articulate tonight but his failure to take real control over the economy and get it going again. his whole objective tonight was to look presidential, look like he was in control. i don't think he succeeded. >> do you ever think he looked presidential ever in the last two years? he did four things, he talked about keeping a campaign promise. he said he would get out of iraq, he did. he talked about the amount of money we're going to save in looking forward we can take that money and do some many of the things we have talked about doing like getting health care and doing other things on the domestic agenda. also he had to sell afghanistan and the idea we still have our focus there. he said when he ran for president that he would focus more on afghanistan. he did as you pointed out reassert himself as commander and chief and show is he in charge of the military. he accomplished those four things tonight. >> bill: why was he so boring? >> it's not above the berkeley production with dancing girls. he is the commander and chief.
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>> bill: i always have a problem with this. >> i always want entertainment. you want dancing girls. >> bill: if i wanted entertainment, i would fire you and get somebody else in. >> there that's very funny. [ laughter ] >> bill: here is my problem. i watched the guy on campaign trail, he was elvis. hope and change and we're and that and the place was going wild, all right? and he was talking about serious things. >> don't have dancing girls. becker live fountain. >> bill: that's what he was doing. >> it's a war speech. >> bill: what i'm telling you is he has changed his demeanor. still talking about serious things. talking about serious things in the campaign. talking about serious things now. but now he is the boring professor. not the nutty professor, the boring professor. i'm telling you, colmes, i watched you you watching the speech three times-you were doing. >> you were doing the "new york times" -- >> bill: i have his speech and i had read it. >> i did, too by the way and the
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fact is he did a great speech. he did the four things he needed to do and it's not entertainment -- >> bill: why do you think he has changed his demeanor? you don't have to be the factor and put your hands and go like this. you don't have to do that. but you can infuse some kind of passion. he has got his hands folded here like -- brooks. do you remember that? look, body language. here is his body language. he is dead. that's his body language. he is dead. >> you can't get him on substance so you are going on form. you can't get him on substance. >> bill: the guy looks demoralized to me. >> you got him on how he is holding his hand? that's all you got? that's all you got. >> bill: what do you think. >> first of all, he did look like a myron with the propeller cap on. >> come on. >> the reason for that, bill two, fold. number one, i don't believe his heart is in the mission in afghanistan or the concluding mission in iraq. so.
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>> bill: i'm not buying that monica. >> bill, it's very hard for anybody to project passion for something that they don't have their heart in number one. number two, during the campaign, he was campaigning. which is the only thing that this man knows how to do. >> bill: then why doesn't he keep doing it. >> governor something a completely different skill set he has not shown any ability to govern this country. >> bill: i want to be very clear, i'm not asking for him to be histrionic or emotional other than look, we did a good job there. we went there, i disagreed with it but we did what we said we were going to do. we fulfilled our commitment. now these people have a chance at freedom and it's a good thing. be a person. >> you know what? if he said o'reilly i want you to hire to you be my media advisor, would you take the gig? >>. no i need you bill in the white house. >> he couldn't afford o'reilly. >> secretary of defense i might take. media advisor, no. >> he couldn't afford you. look, the role of the president is two-fold. one is to create the national agenda to set the national discussion and the national
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agenda. the other part of his job is to sell his agenda and sell it with passion. >> bill: he needs to -- >> when he gets out there and talking about socialist policy; he is full of passion. when he is talking about our national security. that's the only thing he can get riled up about, o'reilly. >> he will never sell his agenda to you. never he does will ever make you happy. >> it's about selling it, colmes. he couldn't muster -- >> bill: he didn't muster much enthusiasm. >> sorry the rockets are not behind him or the pips. >> that's good, owe o'reilly. gladys knight could have a come back. >> bill: i think the speech was fine. i don't have any problem with the words on the page. i will tell you what, i don't think anybody watched it i will give you the numbers and the ratings tomorrow. i don't think anybody watched it right or wrong. >> i agree with you. this was his opportunity to put really out there his vision for an american grand strategy in the world.
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he didn't do it. >> bill: do you think anybody watched it? >> i will be looking for the ratings for this time period. >> bill: we will win. we always do. do you think anybody watched this thing? >> i don't know. i mean, look, this is an important policy speech. this isn't about -- you are talking form over substance the fact that there was substance here. >> bill: i have got to go. there they are monica and colmes, everybody. next on the run down our military guys will analyze whether the terrorists could still win in iraq especially with iran causing trouble. sarah palin -- mccain o
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pill bhil continuing with lead story president obama speaking with iraq this evening. here now military guy ralph peters in washington and colonel david hunt in boston. i don't think americans who follow the situation-overseas as well concerned about the same thing. insurgents, iranian fanatics
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could come back and just make iraq blow up again. do you think it could happen? >> >> be absolutely iran and iraq are tied at the hip. both economically, fliskly, religiously. there is absolute problem that iran could causes a they are in lebanon and as they are in palestine. we have left 4500 of the 50,000 great soldiers left in iraq, our special operation soldiers which are doing daily combat operations in iraq combat operations haven't stopped. >> bill: combat operations have ceased special forces operations have not seized. >> they won't for at least the next year. they are great guys. they represent the best we have. everyone has done a great job but combat operations are still going on to stop what you are suggesting. >> bill: colonel peters, is that enough? is the 4500 special op.s backing up the -- it would be 45,000 regular troops enough to stop
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chaos instituted by al qaeda? they could move back in, some of them are there, and iran? >> well, we will see. bill, i'm less worried about a number of troops than i am about obama talking about turning a page which we heard in the middle east as america is leaving. when i listen to the speech, two ghosts appeared. one was the jimmy carter malaise speech. the other ghost was richard nixon's speeches. what obama is really talking about vietnam asian get -- vietnam atiton. in 2010 iraq is more important than it was in 2003 because of advent of iranian nuclear weapons the pursuit of which obama is not prepared to stop. iran, with nukes and influence over decomposing iraq would be a
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strategic problem over gulf oil supplies. my concern is obama is not engaged. the military did its part. he is right, we did it what he needs to get on board and knock iraqi heads behind closed doors, presidential involvement, shuttle diplomacy and help iraq on a diplomatic and political side. we heard for years there is no military solution. it's political and diplomatic. well, get to it. >> bill: we don't know whether he is doing it or not. he could or could not be. >> he is not. you guys are both saying anything could happen over there. we don't know. optimistic that any forces we have remaining could catastrophe. you both agree. >> on the terrorism front there is a vacuum because of the politics in iran, bill, who is going to do that? as colonel hunt it has to be done behind the scenes the army and marines can't do that.
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>> no, they can't. >> bill: shift to afghanistan, president obama is still trying to sell the commitment that he has made there and the military situation is it improving at all colonel hunt? >> no. as we pour more soldiers in we are getting more killed we lost 21 in the last four days. the problem is as ralph has already said it's tied politically in afghanistan as it is in iraq. there is a vacuum political and military leadership on the afghan side. our guys are continuing to doing a magnificent job on the battlefield. with a vacuum being created by a corrupt and afghan government in the end the insurgency is still fueled by that incompetence and corruption. we could only do so much with that military. we have to have the cooperation of the afghan government and it's not there. >> bill: colonel peters, do you think that the situation is at least stabilized in afghanistan since petraeus got over there? >> no. i think general petraeus is
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doing his very, very best. his very best is very good. we are having some successes again as in iraq. our special operators are doing a terrific job of killing bad guys, al qaeda and taliban extremists, but, bill, the fundamental problem is that for president obama all of these problems, iraq, afghanistan, are political problems. rather than strategic problems. whereas in reality, the strategic issues must come above politics. so just today "the washington post" broke a story about the central bank in afghanistan intervening and closing down afghanistan's biggest private bank affiliated with the karzai family for moving hundreds of millions or billions of dollars to dubai and elsewhere. colonel hunt is absolutely right and he knows his stuff. >> bill: right. if you can't clean up the corruption, no matter how well we perform. >> why die for karzai. >> bill: the situation hasn't
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deteriorated any further. it's kind of like we are waiting and then we will see what the with the new troop surge in afghanistan provides. we have to wait and see. >> yeah. the problem is in pakistan though. with the problem in pack stab, it's doubling down on afghanistan. >> bill: i got it we can't take pakistan. my head is going to blow off. thank you very much. directly ahead. meghan mccain has a new book out. she writes very interesting things about sarah palin. mcmiscontain will be here. is it legal. two muslims who flew from chicago to
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>> bill: personal story segment tonight mostly sunny meghan mccain who worked on her father's presidential campaign it's called dirty sexy politics and it talks about sarah palin's impact on the campaign among lots of other things. here now is meghan mccain. i saw you on good morning america this morning, right? >> yes. >> and were those pinheads nice to you over there by the way. >> yes, they were lovely.
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>> bill: sometimes they can get a little -- [ laughter ] stephanopoulos is okay. you said you had conflicted feelings about sarah palin. i want you to flesh that out on the factor. what is the conflict to you? >> um, you know, when she was on my father's campaign she brought so much enthusiasm and you saw the crowds just double and triple and more women coming and no one can deny this woman's power and enthusiasm and what she can do for the republican party. i am more socially liberal than she is. which is where the conflict takes place. >> bill: so politically because you are a liberal republican. >> i consider myself a socially liberal. >> bill: that means abortion and gay marriage. >> it's just gay marriage i'm pro-life. >> bill: conservative down the line that's where you have the conflict. that's not really a conflict under a political party tent there is room for all of that, is there not. >> exactly. that's how i feel. i think there is room for all of us there are some people in this party who don't think there is room for people like me.
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>> bill: i understand there is intolerance in every party. >> exactly not just the republican party. >> bill: you also write in your book that governor palin was a little bit problematic on the campaign? >> it was just, you know, i didn't know her. the opening scene of my book is me finding out that she is my father's running mate an hour before i go on stage with her. it was chaos from day one. that's the same in any campaign. >> bill: some circles they tried to portray the governor as a diva. a person demanding and who needed all this extra attention. did you see that. >> i didn't see her as a diva. i saw her as a woman who knew what she wanted and 'been preparing to be vice president her entire life. that's how i still see her. she was born to do this and she thought she was going to do that her conflict was very well documented and did i see that. >> bill: so you basically your beef with governor palin is you don't see eye to eye on social issues with her, some social issues? >> essentially, yeah.
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i'm really looking for a leader to really inspire my generation. i'm not entirely convinced that she or any other person right now is really going to be the person to take it all the way. >> bill: it's hard. young republicans are scattered all over the place as you know. >> they are. >> bill: some of them are very conservative. some of them are like you. it's hard. barack obama is elected president and he beats your father. and you have now seen him in office for 18 months. your assessment of the president? >> i think he is doing a terrible job. i think. >> bill: terrible? >> i have never agreed -- i disagree with 85 to 90% of things that are going on. >> bill: because is he against gay marriage. you even disagree with him on gay marriage. is he against it? >> i know. we get the bad wrap as republicans being against gay marriage. he isn't doing anything for the gay community. i'm more scared about the spending. i don't think i'm the only one. >> bill: a to f you give him 18 months a? >> c-plus?
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c? c minus. >> bill: your primary objection with the president is economic? >> yes. you think, what? >> and foreign policy. i think everything that's going on right now with the pull-out, you know, i have two brothers that serve. it's very personal to me. he was against the surge and now automatically he is seniority of taking responsibility. >> bill: took that tonight. is there anything about him that you like? is there anything that you think he has done good in the 18 months. >> i think the way he inspires young people and continues to inspire young people. he is not completely -- i'm not one of these people who think he is the worst president in history. i do not think is he a socialist and i also do not think is he a muslim. but i am a republican. >> bill: you are philosophically different because is he very liberal man. all right. dirty sexy politics. >> do you like the title? >> bill: listen, megan, coming from you, it's fine. if i wrote that book, i don't think it would go. is politics dirty and sexy. >> yes. i i actually came up with the title myself.
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i was having dinner with a bunch of girlfriends who are not particularly interested in politics. >> bill: what's dirty about it. >> dirty is just what it can do to people. it can corrupt people in every way. look at blagojevich. look at what he has done -- >> bill: power corrupts. what's sexy part of it? >> dr. kissinger says power is the ultimate aphrodisiac. he was quite the player in his day. ill about bill i tried to talk to him saint john. >> i heard he was quite the lady's man. >> bill: he himself was spreading that rumor. i never heard it from ladies i just heard it from henry. i don't know. but you say because of that power component there is a lot of stuff going on. i think democracy is sexy. and i think if republicans can start rebranding themselves as small government being sexy, we can really. >> bill: so you think that the
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republicans have to incorporate. >> i do. >> bill: i don't know how that's going to play with some of the more conservative precincts. would you ever run for office? would you ever consider that. >> i say no. i just don't think a person like me can get elected you. >> bill: why? >> i like to go to vegas on the weekends and play blackjack and i don't know if that can happen. >> bill: changing time. i'm not going -- you go to vegas and win, i will vote for you. [ laughter ] >> thank you. >> bill: if you were running as harry reid i think i would vote for you no matter what you do. >> thank you. >> bill: good luck with the book "dirty sexy politics." >> thank you for having me. >> bill: what does john stossel libertarian think about building that mosque near ground zero. he will tell us. is it legal in the man provoking the police doing their job. >> nazi, nazi. ss gestapo. >> bill: is it legal will tell you what happened to that guy. we hope you stay tuned to those
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>> bill: in the is it legal segment tonight, we have lots to talk about. we begin with two suspected terrorists who flew from chicago to amsterdam, holland. some believe that the two men just two guys, 19 names but two guys were practice ago dry run for future terror attack and the dutch detained them. here now our is it legal duo attorney and fox news analyst kimberly guilfoyle and lis wiehl. >> two yemen guys. >> bill: not american citizens. >> one is a legal resident. the other we are not sure of the legal status. they are both traveling not to amsterdam to begin with. they are both traveling to dubai. they are both coming from different parts of the country and meeting in chicago.
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they are not traveling together at this point. in chicago, they both miss a flight to d.c. and one of their luggages is put on to that d.c. flight. why that happens and why that is allowed to happen is absolutely incredible to me that they're allowed to keep luggage on a flight where the person is not. >> bill: it's chaos. >> that's number one problem. >> bill: the luggage goes to d.c. without them. >> to d.c. without them. they then get together on a flight to amsterdam and they fly not, you know, seat by seat but pretty close together, getting off that flight. at that point, as this is happening, the folks in d.c. are realizing, wait a second, that luggage is going to yemen. the guy is not on it. they pull the luggage off. their cell phones are wrapped together, you know, nothing explosive in and of itself. >> bill: box cutter we know was used in 9/11. >> a bunch of other stuff. >> bill: dutch have these guys. you say they don't know each other? >> we don't know. >> bill: i think they know each other. i'm going out on a limb. i don't know anything on this case. >> they both have the detroit
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connections. they are both from yemen. >> i'm saying they know each other. >> bill: the authorities say they don't know each other. >> they are not saying. >> bill: we on the factor know more than they do. we think they know each other. both traveling in a weird way. so the dutch have them. >> right. >> bill: now they have a bunch of stuff in their luggage, which is circumstantial evidence, guilfoyle. >> how about common sense? i mean, really. >> bill: can you be convicted on circumstantial evidence of dopey stuff in your luggage that makes no sense? >> you can be convicted of sirnld, sure in any courtroom across america. when you add it up and it makes sense, 1 plus 1 is 2. >> bill: what will they be charged with. >> right now we don't have enough information to charge them, guess what, they are being held. they can be held dutch law six days there san investigation going on. >> bill: six days? >> we will find out that they know each other and perhaps there was a dry run. there is conflicting reports about that.
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>> then they hopped a plane to amsterdam. >> bill: they got these guys. we'll tell you what happens to them. now, in some cities, like rochester, new york, close to the canadian border, we have ice officials going on trains and doing, what? >> yeah, border officials within
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their right going on to trains. you see the video here. they are conducting sweeps. they are asking people questions. this is voluntary and consensual and within their rights to do so. >> bill: okay. so, let's stop. you get on a train in syracuse, new york, and you are going some place. and it stops and these ice guys come on. and they do what? what do they do? >> they can go up to you and say hi, sir, would you like to show us some identification? >> bill: say no. i'm reading my magazine. get out of here. >> if people with talking to them and you don't have the paperwork, then they are able to take you. in they have taken in 2788 passengers from october 2005 through last september. so there are people that are traveling there without paperwork. >> bill: people canadian border on trains to show them i.d. that they are here legally in the united states. that's what they're doing? >> right. >> bill: you don't have to cooperate. >> absolutely. >> bill: if you don't cooperate, what happens to you. >> you are on a bus or train and
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border patrol agents. i have worked with these guys. they are great guys. a border patrol agent comes on together a gun i'm not going to say get lost. >> bill: you are north because you are little bo peep. what happens? >> they can't make an arrest then. >> they can follow you home. it has to be consensual. >> bill: call their guys and say look, i have got this guy, is he not cooperating when he gets off, follow him. >> as long as it's within 100 miles of the border. >> bill: that's interesting. what's the difference between this and the arizona law? >> federal vs. state. >> bill: the feds are doing. this that's the difference. because it's the same thing. >> that was the whole point with the arizona law was it federal or state? >> bill: the feds there are no trains down there on the borders anyway. this is a northern thing. >> right. but if the feds were doing this down at the border that would be fine. >> transit hubs that go into the interior of the united states. well within their rights to do so.
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are doing nazi-like tactics? >> they are performing their jobs. absolutely. >> bill: nothing wrong with that. >> reasonable suspicion. we will hold you over because you sore magnificent and we have two other things including we'll have the ladies and analyze this, go. >> just say how is it going? and you call me a nazi? >> um. >>um why are you calling me a nazi? why?? >> because you are acting like one. bill: back with more of legal
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